I don't particularly want an echo chamber. That's just boring. Even if they can't do reasonable intelligent debate, I'd appreciate a bit more than just a sentence or two. I'd appreciate a fucking response when I take the time to dig up some information. I mean, it's just infuriating when someone totally backs away from a good discussion in the face of one set of facts. How can you claim to support something if you're not willing to actually defend that belief?
The really annoying part is, I know my flist is fairly intelligent and very opinionated. I like my friends that way. I WANT to hear THEIR opinions, yours included, because I know you lot can actually form a decent argument and string a sentence together without using an ampersand every time you mean the word and. Yet, you, mon ami, are the only person on my flist who responds with anything resembling regularity. The people who have annoyed me so? One, I vaguely recall as being in the same fandom as me once upon a time. The other? I have no bloody clue how they got to my journal. I suppose if I used that silly Six Degrees of Separation LJ code that someone made, I'd be able to find out, but I don't particularly WANT to.
I'm mostly ticked off because, in all honesty? I can't really go anywhere on LJ other than a select portion of my own flist without being assaulted by rampant woolly liberalism. Hell, make that the INTERNET. I can't turn on the telly and reasonably expect to not have to listen to some Obama ad that's mudslinging McCain (and Obama's supposedly above that!) or look at any news source and not see/read about/listen to some reporter practically orgasming over Obama.
I can't go to a comm that has utterly no connection to politics and not hear snarky comments about McCain or Palin. I can't watch a video on YouTube that even mildly favours the Republican ticket without a bunch of assholes just flaming the place up. I can't express my political views in any form without getting flamed. Hell, I once got a flame over an icon I didn't even use!
So, I expect to be able to express my views in my own journal without people I don't even know showing up without even telling me how they got to my journal in the first place. I expect to be able to say something in my own journal without basically being told I'm stupid and/or clueless. I honestly don't mind dissenting opinions. I wouldn't have left my entries public if I minded people I didn't know showing up. Except, I guess I expect too much of people to introduce themselves before spouting off an opinion that, quite honestly, sounds like it was pulled straight from the Daily Kos or the website of any of the big liberal groups.
If that's their honest to God opinion, then fine. It just... they show little of the finesse that comes from research and logical thinking. They just spout off whatever the latest line is. Which, you know, if I were looking for the latest line, I could just look at a newspaper.
Also, quit it with that polite chickenshit. If you disagree, just say so and say why. If m_buggie were able to get online, I'm sure she'd be able to say quite authoritatively that, while we certainly don't agree on everything, we have yet to resort to mudslinging and insults. It's the product of intelligent discussion.
To tell the truth, I don't mind the non-reactions. I could even get used to the vocal, broken record disagreement (seriously, do people even look to see if what they're commenting about has already been brought up in a different entry?!). I just wish that the people who I KNOW agree with me would comment too. >:| It's pretty annoying when you've been told by someone that they agree with you when you're talking to them privately, yet the moment there's a chance for them to support you publicly they just IM you with some pithy agreement. If you REALLY agree with me, say something to the entry, for fuck's sake.
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The really annoying part is, I know my flist is fairly intelligent and very opinionated. I like my friends that way. I WANT to hear THEIR opinions, yours included, because I know you lot can actually form a decent argument and string a sentence together without using an ampersand every time you mean the word and. Yet, you, mon ami, are the only person on my flist who responds with anything resembling regularity. The people who have annoyed me so? One, I vaguely recall as being in the same fandom as me once upon a time. The other? I have no bloody clue how they got to my journal. I suppose if I used that silly Six Degrees of Separation LJ code that someone made, I'd be able to find out, but I don't particularly WANT to.
I'm mostly ticked off because, in all honesty? I can't really go anywhere on LJ other than a select portion of my own flist without being assaulted by rampant woolly liberalism. Hell, make that the INTERNET. I can't turn on the telly and reasonably expect to not have to listen to some Obama ad that's mudslinging McCain (and Obama's supposedly above that!) or look at any news source and not see/read about/listen to some reporter practically orgasming over Obama.
I can't go to a comm that has utterly no connection to politics and not hear snarky comments about McCain or Palin. I can't watch a video on YouTube that even mildly favours the Republican ticket without a bunch of assholes just flaming the place up. I can't express my political views in any form without getting flamed. Hell, I once got a flame over an icon I didn't even use!
So, I expect to be able to express my views in my own journal without people I don't even know showing up without even telling me how they got to my journal in the first place. I expect to be able to say something in my own journal without basically being told I'm stupid and/or clueless. I honestly don't mind dissenting opinions. I wouldn't have left my entries public if I minded people I didn't know showing up. Except, I guess I expect too much of people to introduce themselves before spouting off an opinion that, quite honestly, sounds like it was pulled straight from the Daily Kos or the website of any of the big liberal groups.
If that's their honest to God opinion, then fine. It just... they show little of the finesse that comes from research and logical thinking. They just spout off whatever the latest line is. Which, you know, if I were looking for the latest line, I could just look at a newspaper.
Also, quit it with that polite chickenshit. If you disagree, just say so and say why. If
To tell the truth, I don't mind the non-reactions. I could even get used to the vocal, broken record disagreement (seriously, do people even look to see if what they're commenting about has already been brought up in a different entry?!). I just wish that the people who I KNOW agree with me would comment too. >:| It's pretty annoying when you've been told by someone that they agree with you when you're talking to them privately, yet the moment there's a chance for them to support you publicly they just IM you with some pithy agreement. If you REALLY agree with me, say something to the entry, for fuck's sake.