Ah, grass is greener - I hear the same 'the whole world is against me' spiel from liberal Americans just as much. There must be some places you can go. Conservative-leaning LJ comms? Blogs? Forums? They're out there. I presume you must have conservative friends on your f-list, though, but they don't seem to have turned up. That's a pity. It does give one the impression that it's you versus everybody you know. Including, as you said, some people I've never seen before. Perhaps you need to prune your f-list a little, or block some folks who've friended you.
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As for commentary on what you said, well.
The things I agree with: - Yeah, I wouldn't do meth either. - With you on the death penalty thing. Seems hypocritical to punish killing with killing. - #8 made me grin. I'm not religious, but my family are, and they're also pretty fond of science. I absolutely detest this idea that religion and science are opposed. They're really not. - With you on the marriage thing, too. It would save a lot of fuss and make some things more equal if they separated the religious and civil aspects. We have civil partnerships for same-sex couples in the UK; I want that to be extended to opposite-sex couples too. - #13, to my surprise. You can't just run away without tidying up after yourself, and anyway, they are planning to pull out now. Sure, it was a bad idea in the first place in my opinion, but you've got to finish what you started.
Some disagreements, in brief: - You believe a foetus is a separate human life. I don't. And that, I believe, is pretty much an intractable difference. There's not much middle ground there. - #7 - I don't see what the big deal is about waiting until marriage. I don't see how a ceremony turns something wrong into something right. But hey, if you want to, no problem. It's a matter of personal choice. - 'This country has no room for hyphenated Americans?' Really? It's a very big country, and well, I know you address that point already, but I do feel that a country built on immigration shouldn't do an about-face and close its gates to the desperate and needy. What about your tired, your sick, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free? My view on immigration has often been that if you are in such a dire state you will break the damn law to get somewhere else, you're desperate enough to deserve to be allowed to live there. - I'm pretty damn patriotic, and I'd happily burn a British flag for five pounds, let alone a million. Flags undoubtedly carry symbolic importance and all that, but they're just bits of fabric. I could never understand how you could be too strongly offended by the destruction of a symbol alone. Perhaps that's a cultural thing. We don't make as big a deal of the flag here.
So um, yeah. I'm simplifying a lot here, but that's pretty much my thoughts in a nutshell.
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Date: 21 October 2008 10:43 (UTC)I presume you must have conservative friends on your f-list, though, but they don't seem to have turned up. That's a pity. It does give one the impression that it's you versus everybody you know. Including, as you said, some people I've never seen before. Perhaps you need to prune your f-list a little, or block some folks who've friended you.
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As for commentary on what you said, well.
The things I agree with:
- Yeah, I wouldn't do meth either.
- With you on the death penalty thing. Seems hypocritical to punish killing with killing.
- #8 made me grin. I'm not religious, but my family are, and they're also pretty fond of science. I absolutely detest this idea that religion and science are opposed. They're really not.
- With you on the marriage thing, too. It would save a lot of fuss and make some things more equal if they separated the religious and civil aspects. We have civil partnerships for same-sex couples in the UK; I want that to be extended to opposite-sex couples too.
- #13, to my surprise. You can't just run away without tidying up after yourself, and anyway, they are planning to pull out now. Sure, it was a bad idea in the first place in my opinion, but you've got to finish what you started.
Some disagreements, in brief:
- You believe a foetus is a separate human life. I don't. And that, I believe, is pretty much an intractable difference. There's not much middle ground there.
- #7 - I don't see what the big deal is about waiting until marriage. I don't see how a ceremony turns something wrong into something right. But hey, if you want to, no problem. It's a matter of personal choice.
- 'This country has no room for hyphenated Americans?' Really? It's a very big country, and well, I know you address that point already, but I do feel that a country built on immigration shouldn't do an about-face and close its gates to the desperate and needy. What about your tired, your sick, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free? My view on immigration has often been that if you are in such a dire state you will break the damn law to get somewhere else, you're desperate enough to deserve to be allowed to live there.
- I'm pretty damn patriotic, and I'd happily burn a British flag for five pounds, let alone a million. Flags undoubtedly carry symbolic importance and all that, but they're just bits of fabric. I could never understand how you could be too strongly offended by the destruction of a symbol alone. Perhaps that's a cultural thing. We don't make as big a deal of the flag here.
So um, yeah. I'm simplifying a lot here, but that's pretty much my thoughts in a nutshell.